Osher Gunsberg & Mike Cannon-Brookes — GMPOOG #2

"This could create shitloads of jobs."

G’day Fearmongers —

I’m thrilled to bring you this month’s Greatest Moral Podcast Of Our Generation.

Every 4 weeks on the A Rational Fear feed, Linh Do and I present a climate news update and a long-form conversation with leader in climate action. This month’s chat is excellent.

Two very different brains leading climate conversations in their own powerful way.

Osher Gunsberg (The Bachelor / Better Than Yesterday Podcast) and Mike Cannon-Brookes (Atlassian / SunCable)

Osher is using his celebrity to draw his broad audience to his podcast where he has meaningful conversations about climate anxiety and climate action.

And Mike is using his own personal wealth and huge influence in the business community to drive innovation and wedge government into climate action.

It’s an inspiring chat that will get you fired up about the future of energy and climate action.


Dan Ilic

A NOTE ON AUDIO QUALITY: The first 8minutes of the conversation sound a bit rubbish because I forgot to hit record on my Rodecaster, so we had to use the audio from the Zoom recording which isn’t as high fidelity. So bear with us, it does get better.


We’re back with a regular A Rational Fear on October 23rd with Greta Lee-Jackson & Nina Oyama, then following week with Zoë Coombs Marr & Concetta Caristo

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The VP debate this week was delightfully boring, it was so refreshing to watch two slick politicians spend 90 minutes evading scrutiny — it felt like the 90’s.

Sadly, the most memorable part of the debate wasn’t the fact that both candidates avoided questions from the moderator, or that the moderator couldn’t fact check or push back, or that Mike Pence tried to blame Democrats for the 60,000 cases of swine flu rather than the 200,000 dead from COVID on his watch or that Kamala Harris failed to articulate the Biden Climate Plan — The most memorable moment was that a fly appeared on Mike Pence’s head for 2 minutes.

This sent the internet into fit, and it spurred a 1000 twitter accounts:

And then the memes started to come, firstly from the Biden / Harris campaign:

Then by funtrepreneurs:

Is it worth clicking through to watch this one? I’d say almost certainly so.

It’s one of those fleeting moments in internet ephemera that in 3 months time everyone will forget how to explain the relevance of this mashup. The Trump campaign is basically a long form experiment in the effects of irony on a large population and this bus is the physical manifestation of that:

Nothing is as ironic as the Gas-lighter in Chief:

And probably the most ironic story of the week courtesy of The Guardian:


Host: Dan Ilic
Co-host: Linh Do
Post production: Jacob Round
Voice Over: Robbie McGregor
Artwork: Lauren Geaney

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And thanks to the Smart Energy Council for allowing us to republish the audio from their Global Smart Energy Conference.