Julia Zemiro Asks 'Who Cares?' — Episode 4

🎧 PODCAST GUESTS: Jen Cloher & Astrid Jorgensen

G’day Fearmongers!

This is the 4th Episode of the monthly spin-off podcast from A Rational Fear:

Julia Zemiro Asks 'Who Cares?' 

Each month for the next 3 months on the A Rational Fear podcast feed, Julia interviews change makers, civic leaders, and people who organise their communities and claim their power to discover the secrets to making good things happen.

This month Julia chats with two artists who have built extraordinary communities around their craft, how both these artists have shown leadership and helped their respective communities build themselves up and thrive in times of crisis.

Jen Cloher (Ngāpuhi & Ngati Kahu) — is a highly respected recording and performing artist living on unceded Wurundjeri land in Naarm (Melbourne) Australia. Cloher is co-founder of Milk! Records (Courtney Barnett, Tiny Ruins, Hand Habits) and I Manage My Music, a masterclass series for self-managed artists to assist self-managed artists with the challenges of creating and releasing music in Australia.

“When an artist stands up on a stage, we invite everyone in that room to tap into what it is to be human, which is something politicians are not capable of doing because they're not connected. They've got their own agenda, they're not there to bring us together”

— Jen Cloher

also we hear from:

Astrid Jorgensen — Founding Director of Pub Choir™and its COVID adaptation, Couch Choir. She is also a co-creator of Australia's Biggest Singalong which aired on SBS TV in 2021.

“It's not about competing, there is no way to win. All we can do is work together. And the sum is always greater than the parts. If you have honest and optimistic leadership.” — Astrid Jorgensen

I hope you enjoy these conversations with two great artists building community and helping other to thrive culturally, financially and spiritually.

Cheers,

Dan Ilic
Very Average Pty Ltd

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Thanks:

Big thanks to The Bertha Foundation, our Patreon Supporters, RODE Mics, Jacob Round, Jen Cloher, Astrid Jorgensen, Caroline Pegram, Jess Harwood and Julia Zemiro.